Church and State is a new political interview series hosted by 19-year-old musician and first-time voter Church, from Church & AP.

In this episode he talks to leader of the National Party Judith Collins about housing, online harassment, Covid debt and white privilege.

Judith Collins became National’s leader in July this year. She’s 61 years old, and has been an MP since 2002, so she’s been in Parliament since Church was one.

He wanted to find out what she thinks about the issues that matter this election.

You can watch our episode with NZ First leader Winston Peters here, Greens co-leader Marama Davidson here, Labour leader Jacinda Ardern here, and ACT deputy leader Brooke van Velden here.

This year’s election is on October 17th. You can enrol to vote at