"I don't have all the answers but I just base it off what I've been through and my survival, having to start life all over at 21, and as a woman." 

Moe Laga gets blazed and 30 minutes later sits down in the shower with comedian James Nokise to talk running away from home, her performance art and the responsibility of becoming a “queerant” to the COVEN ballroom house, a family of young queer POC.

“Motherhood is an art practice in a way,” says Moe. “When you think of mothers you think of them as creating something and I feel like that’s what artists naturally do. So I’m like, fuck my art practice, my art practice is my motherhood.” 

Features chicken and waffles from Peach’s Hot Chicken in Panmure, Auckland. 

About Eating Fried Chicken in the Shower

Eating Fried Chicken in the Shower is a podcast series where depressed alcoholic comedian James Nokise invites famous people into his mental health safe space, for a finger-licking chat about headspace and happiness.

“Through the magic of takeaways and running water, it turns out my mental health safe space is eating fried chicken in the shower,” says James. 

This season he talks to members of SWIDT and rapper Church, Creamerie creators Roseanne Liang and Perlina Lau, comedians Joe Daymond and The Fan Brigade and Coven House Mother Moe Laga as well as media personalities Tegan Yorwarth (Mai FM), Henry Hohenberger (Niu FM) and Oscar Kightley. This is the final episode in the series. See all the other episodes here

Where to get help:

  • 1737: The nationwide, 24/7 mental health support line. Call or text 1737 to speak to a trained counsellor.
  • Suicide Crisis Line: Free call 0508 TAUTOKO or 0508 828 865. Nationwide 24/7 support line operated by experienced counsellors with advanced suicide prevention training. 
  • Youthline: Free call 0800 376 633, free text 234. Nationwide service focused on supporting young people.
  • OUTLine NZ: Freephone 0800 OUTLINE (0800 688 5463). National service that helps LGBTIQ+ New Zealanders access support, information and a sense of community. 

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